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Hearing explores Lake County IHSS proposal PDF Print E-mail
Written by Elizabeth Larson   
Wednesday, 17 October 2007
LAKE COUNTY – An Assembly subcommittee on Tuesday held a two-and-a-half-hour long hearing on Lake County's proposed two-tier pay system for In-Home Supportive Services (IHSS) providers.


Assemblymember Patty Berg, who represents Lake County in the Assembly, called the hearing, and informed Board Chair Jeff Smith on Oct. 9 that it was scheduled for Tuesday, as Lake County News previously reported.


With a full agenda, and with Supervisor Anthony Farrington still recovering at home from a motorcycle accident that took place late last month, the Board of Supervisors voted Tuesday morning to send Social Services Director Carol Huchingson Sacramento to testify on the board's behalf.


Supervisor Rob Brown was the lone dissenter in the 3-1 vote, saying that he felt the entire board should attend.


Brown contended that the timing of the hearing was not an accident. He said of Berg, “If she was serious about our involvement and input it would have been scheduled for another day.”


Supervisor Denise Rushing said she had spoken with Berg about the hearing, and that the timing was based on the calendars of legislative staff, not Berg's.


She also reported that Berg had told her, “You've opened a can of worms” with the two-tier proposal, which would pay IHSS providers an extra $1 per hour over their current minimum wage if they underwent drug testing, background checks and first aid training.


Rushing said she felt it was a mistake for the board or at least one member not to go to the hearing. “I would hate to not have all sides heard by the choice of this board.”


Brown said the board had agreed two weeks ago to go as a body, and that they should all go together or not go at all.


The board considered sending one of its members but couldn't agree on which one.


“If we want to be passionate and confrontational, we send Supervisor Brown,” said Rushing. If they wanted to reach out, they should send Robey, she added.


Brown said that, with no disrespect intended, that Rushing shouldn't go because “she does not share the same passion at this time as we do on this particular issue.”


Eventually, they settled on sending Huchingson, who carried a five-page position statement signed by all four board members at Tuesday's meeting, along with exhibits and attachments, to the hearing.


County Counsel Anita Grant advised Huchingson to simply read the position statement into the record and avoid making policy statements that are the board's responsibility.


With Huchingson, the board also sent the request that Berg's Health and Human Services Subcommittee No. 1 expand the hearing to allow the board – with a recovered Farrington – to appear at a later time to give its testimony.


“This is a big, big issue, and to restrict it to just the folks they've invited to this hearing is not going to give them adequate knowledge of the scope and breadth of this issue, if that's what they really want,” said Robey.


HEARING FEATURES VARIETY OF STAKEHOLDERS


Berg introduced the 1:30 p.m. hearing by saying, “I believe that good policy warrants and requires public discussion and airing.”


The hearing included four panels, beginning with state and legislative staffers, and Carol Zabin, Ph.D., a UC Berkeley labor economist.


Zabin said that many important health care areas – such as caring for the children, the elderly and the disabled – feature low paid workers. She discussed the importance of controlling turnover for through higher wages and benefits, which translates into better care, a larger employee pool and job satisfaction.


Eva Lopez, deputy director of Adult Programs for the California Department of Social Services, confirmed to the Assembly subcommittee that Lake County did request clearance to pursue the two-tier system.


In order to carry out the proposal, Lopez said the county would need to go through a “labor intensive process” to make sure the drug testing, training and background checks requirements were met.


Los Angeles County, she said, is the only county so far with a two-tier IHSS pay system, but it's different in that it applies to backup providers in emergency situations.


She said the state Department of Social Service determined the county could require drug testing, although the state agency doesn't require it. The issue of drug testing is a county by county issue that depends on each county's specific labor negotiations, she added.


Four other counties – Inyo, Riverside, Sacramento and Yolo – require drug and alcohol screening before workers can be included in a registry, but they don't offer different wages, said Lopez.


Lopez said the state Department of Social Services has asked Lake County to submit additional information on its proposal in order to complete a full review.


During her 15 minutes of testimony, Huchingson told the subcommittee, “Our board feels very strongly about our proposal,” and urged them to continue the process so all board members can be heard and more stakeholders could comment on the proposal.


Sticking carefully to the position statement, Huchingson emphasized four points: that the hearing was premature pending the outcome of the state's approval process; that the issue merited more input and consideration that just one hearing could provide; the hearing could interfere with ongoing negotiations between the Lake County Public Authority and the IHSS union, California United Homecare Workers; and that the proposal was meant to give IHSS recipients the chance to make informed choices and ensure a pool of reliable, capable providers.


Huchingson declined to answer many of the questions subcommittee members asked her, saying she deferred to the county's supervisors.


When Berg asked about the status of negotiations, Huchingson would only say that they were “ongoing.”


Berg said she thought it would have been necessary to submit the two-tier system to collective bargaining with the union before taking it to the state. “I'm confused,” said Berg.


Huchingson reported that, for August 2007, there were 1,611 paid IHSS providers and 1,561 authorized recipients. She said the county's current IHSS registry has 307 workers listed, of which 146 are active and 161 are on hold because they are not seeking more work.


PROPOSAL DRAWS HARSH CRITICISM


On the third panel, Deborah Doctor, policy advocate for Protection and Advocacy Inc., said the two-tier proposal offers no evidence of increased safety for clients, it diminishes statutory rights and punishes consumers for their choices. She suggested it came down to the county attempting to save money.


Doctor said her sister, who lives in another state, provides IHSS-type care for their mother. If her sister lived in Lake County, she said, “she would have to pee in a cup for the privilege” of caring for her mother, which Doctor said was “appalling.”


Sitting on the same panel as Doctor, Janie Whiteford, president of the California IHSS Consumer Alliance and Santa Clara County Advisory Board member, called the proposal “inherently wrong” and demeaning to consumers.


Also speaking was Lake County resident Nancy Krook, an IHSS recipient who employs her daughter, Laurel Elliot.


“My daughter put her life on hold two years ago and came to help me out,” said Krook, adding that she often needs 24-hour care.


“The county should not be making judgments where they are not welcome or needed,” she said. “I can't help but feel that the caregivers are being discriminated against.”


IHSS allows Krook to stay in her dream home, but she fears that's in jeopardy because her daughter may have to move on in order to make a living and have a life.


The final panel featured Tyrone Freeman, president of California United Homecare Workers.


He said there is no agreement between the union and the county to prevent discussion of what is going on in negotiations, contradicting Huchingson's earlier statement.


Freeman said he was there to address the dangerous precedent – especially for consumers – that the two-tier system represented. He added, however that protections should exist, which is why the union supported AB 868, which requires that IHSS providers undergo criminal background checks.


He said Lake County's “misguided” proposal offers no additional protections for consumers.


Freeman, who is black, said the two-tier system created a second-class citizenship situation like the Jim Crow laws that his grandparents fought during the Civil Rights Era.


Doug Moore, vice chair of the California Home Care Council, echoed Freeman's concerns, saying Lake County is attempting to undermine a fundamental consumer right.


Moore suggested Lake County's proposal was meant to avoid paying reasonable wages; he added that the legislature should make the county increase wages to its IHSS workers.


Lake County resident Laurel Elliot, who provides IHSS care to her other, said she believes the proposal is the county's effort to control the system.


“They're not looking at what's best for the provider,” she said. “They're not looking at what's best for the consumer.”


Minimum wage is not a livable wage, she said, and a livable wage is in everyone's best interests.


The subcommittee also welcomed public comment from residents from around the state. Overwhelmingly, those who spoke opposed the proposal.


Assemblyman Jim Beall (D-San Jose), a subcommittee member, said at the end of the hearing that he wanted to hear from the Lake County Board of Supervisors on the issue.


He pointed to increasing administrative costs for IHSS and concerns about insurance. “Ultimately we want to see everyone have health care and some kind of benefits.”


The hearing adjourned shortly before 4 p.m., about five minutes before the Board of Supervisors' open session ended for the day.


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working...
written by lenny, October 17, 2007
well if anyone is interested in my opinion, working as an LVN x a million years...
a two tier system is completely ridiculous. I could speculate forever as to why the County of Lake came up with this brilliant plan, effecting the consumer and providers, but I won't.
What I will say may piss some (a lot) people off, but it won't be a first!
Drug and alcohol testing, in my opinion, should be in place in this program ,just as it is for most of my jobs over the years, caring for others as a licensed vocational nurse.
The counter argument to this is....then everyone should be tested who provides service to consumers and along comes big brother...
Again my feeling on this subject are strong in that you are working with a very vunerable population, emotionally, physically and sometimes spiritually. In essence the perfect targets (victims) and yes for those that are already pissed I recognize that that is a stereotype!!
Drug and Alcohol testing is routine within the hospitals and nursing in-home-care agencies.
Why should In-Home-Support-Services be any different? The care givers are providing for and working with individuals that need their assistance for daily living.
Summation: Forget the two tier, these people deserve one level with a $3.00/hr. raise and County paid drug and alcohol testing with finger prints, and a working county registry in place for consumers to call 24/7
archived webcast
written by taxismom, October 17, 2007
here
http://www.calchannel.com/archive.php
select October 16 budget subcommittee number 1,on health and human services.

Listen carefully to the comments and questions from Assemblyman De LaTorre
and our Assemblywoman.

Why was a county employee, Ms. Hutchinson directed to not answer questions? What is this Board afraid of?
Doesn't she know what's going on? Is she not capable of clarifying and speaking to this proposal by BOS?
She works for me, not the BOS.

The testosterone enabled members of the Lake County BOS, continue to display their arrogance, ignorance and provincialism on matters regarding working people. Have any of them ever actually punched a clock? Have any of them ever bargained a contract with an employer as a wage earner?

The suggestion, during public comment, by the IHSS worker from Mendo County, that a team of professional mediators be sent in to teach the BOS how to negotiate a contract is excellent and I hope acted upon.

The question is not to test or not to test, and not whether or not providers submit to a background check. The providers have agreed to do this.
The question is why is this Board intent upon creating a class of county wage earners that are deemed 'second class'?
As Assemblyman De La Torre asked, does Ms. Hutchinson have to submit to a drug test in order to get a raise?
...
written by yellowwing, October 17, 2007
If Taxismom had paid attention to the BOS meeting yesterday morning just after 9 a.m. the question about what the BOS was about would have been answered.

This hearing certainly looked like someone in Sacramento was attempting to blind side Lake County.

The Social Services Director acted as she was directed to act by her employers, the BOS. (No she does not work directly for each and every tax payer. The BOS have been elected to direct her actions.)

Why are additional tests for additional pay a negative? Perhaps the first tier needs to be higher, but why not offer an incentive? The county has said it will pay for the tests, not the client, not the worker.

A living wage? Just how many workers in Lake County have the luxury of a living wage....or even retirees who receive the equivalent of a living wage?

I just love the comments by Mr. Freeman - just couldn't leave race out of the equation could he?

If Taxismom did her research she would know that with the exception of a single supervisor, each and every BOS member has at some time punched a clock. Just shows the ignorance of the writer.

The consumer may hire whomever they choose, nothing has changed that. If the consumer chooses to hire someone who has not been tested that is their privilege.

Who is going to pay for these professional mediators? Do you think they are free? Do you believe those negotiating are not professionals? Which side?

What do IHSS workers (or the union) have to hide? Seems to me the people not being upfront are not sitting on the BOS.
i asked
written by taxismom, October 17, 2007
if they had....
cite your evidence please.

because no one recieves a living wage, then no one should get one? wow talk about your circular logic.

and if she doesnt work for me, i want my money back from that portion of my county property & sales tax that goes in to the county of Lake coffers, that enables it to issues a monthly check to the County Director of Social Services.
IHSS
written by James, October 17, 2007
My opion on this matter would be solely my awareness of the four males that call them selfs supervisors.

It is hard for me to believe this board would have the best interest of those that IHSS is intended to help.

If there is a union then this county should negotiate, not go in a bask door
to get the upper hand.

This is about money, control and power if not hire them as government enployees with the same benefits as the rest.

Now thats only view because I have known them not tobe honest males.
Clearing up confusion
written by SMann, October 17, 2007
It’s important that we clear something up: CUHW is not apposed to background checks – in fact, we supported the new legislation that ensures consumers have access to worker background checks if they so desire to have it when hiring their care provider. We’ve always been dedicated to taking steps to ensure that the best quality care is being delivered to our seniors and people living with disabilities. We are also dedicated to ensuring that consumer choice – the foundation of the IHSS program – is not taken away from IHSS recipients and decided by elected officials.

What we are opposed to is the creation of a two-tier pay scale - that has nothing to do with quality of work – and creates a second class citizen. What the County Board of Supervisors are attempting to do is to tarnish the image of workers who have so selflessly given of their time to care for those in need by casting them in a suspicious light as a group of workers who can not be trusted. Nothing could be further from the truth!

Finally, Mr. Freeman’s comments referencing the Civil Rights movement and Jim Crow were not meant to be taken literally, but rather a reference to the harm that can be done when a second class of citizens is created and the years of work required to undo that damage.

On behalf of all Lake County homecare workers, thank you for taking such interest in this important issue.
What this is about
written by purplegirl, October 18, 2007
"On the third panel, Deborah Doctor, policy advocate for Protection and Advocacy Inc., said the two-tier proposal offers no evidence of increased safety for clients, it diminishes statutory rights and punishes consumers for their choices. She suggested it came down to the county attempting to save money."

I couldn't have said it better myself. This is NOT about care it is about money. If it were about care, safety, security, it wouldn't just be In Home Support Services they would be concentrating on with this two tiered system.

Yesterday, I commented about why this two tier system is so dangerous. But, after thinking about it, I am not really sure the BOS really thinks they can get away with a two tiered system in the first place and that it may be nothing more than a diversion to keep from having to give homecare providers what they deserve which is a decent wage and healthcare (which is what they get most everywhere else in California). I think they know they are on the wrong track with this one. I mean, think about it, if they were so passionate and wholehearted about this proposal simply for the sole purpose of security and safety of the "vulnerable"... a board member's words not mine.... couldn't at least ONE Of the supervisors have shown up for the hearing? No, I am pretty sure that this is more about money than care.
Smart take
written by Donna Christopher, October 18, 2007
on it Purplegirl, "more about money than care" would certainly answer all the questions. I think the reason at least one of our Supes couldn't make it is cause Farrington is still out (sell the bike or what is left of it dude, you don't bounce like ya did at 17) so there would have only been 3 supes. But I really do question who ever scheduled a state meeting that requests a Supe to be there when they already know (state law) that they must meet on Tuesdays (least the first 4 in any month). Just another government side show to keep from actually doing something. I'm shocked :wink:
law \" My BUNS\"
written by James, October 19, 2007
So what we have is a conspiracy, in the back alleys, Our local Yahoos were aware and had over a week so plains could have been made. What we have her is the old dog an pony show by a government to control the least paid and keep the power in there hands. I can assure you this thay will lie, thay will cheat and brake the law. And because we donot keep a eye on them.

I have said it before and repeat it again." Vigilance is always the first casualty with loss of liberty. ?

Our local government is run by daspots and serve themselves for themselves.

God help us

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