Do your homework...
here is the latest...

http://www.calhealthreform.org/content/view/17/33/

I do believe SB 840 is dead on the Gov.'s desk, these are the proposals including with SB840...up for vote if need be!

Terre to hear of your loss and the loss to Joe's family. This is a national disgrace and even tho we're up to our arm pits in national disgraces right now, this one still floats to the top. My spouse was the same way with his first heart attack, it almost killed him and definitely left much permanent damage. That was 9 years ago and cost $80,000.00. I bet its triple that cost now and I can easily see someone (especially a man - sorry to be sexist but when it comes to doctors...) thinking 'I'm better off pushing daisies cause I can't pay that bill'. Think of it as really, really late term state sponsored abortion - Pay or Die. If we the people of this state can't do something about universal care, (steal Mass'ideas if need be) were toast.

Great, Donna wants another government handout. If we give free health care, why not free legal services? It is sad when people become ill but what about when they're sued? Better yet, what about free Wall Marts? It's also sad when people don't have warm clothes to wear and enough food to eat. Free bred and bigger circuses should be available to all. Vote for the democrats. DW

National health care is needed. Big Pharmacy is the stumbling block. Since they contribute massive amounts to medical schools, etc. we will never have it. BP is very busy resurecting and recycling older drugs to reap obscene profits with new patents. Bring on the generics. As long as we keep the Democrats out of it, it can work. What is obscene is people having to choose between food and medicine, your elitist attitude notwithstanding.

Commies not only want free health care but now they want free drugs. They call it national health care. Everyone but the mentally challenged know it's another government handout. The loony left is good with words and great finding their way to the Coliceum in time for the next event. They couldn't find a job if one bit them in the ass. DW

health care system was a communist plot, that would make all industrialized nations without exceptions communists, that is to say all of Europe, Canada, Mexico, etc.
But what does the Republican love of corporate welfare make the US? What could one call "Big Oil" being given tax breaks, except a state subsidized industry, supported by the tax payer, in other words a leach, which comes around and robs us ever more to reap unprecedented profits? Revolutions were started in the past for less than this!
What would one call corporations which have been given huge tax breaks by Republicans to move their operations overseas, expect state subsidized entreprises which are rewarded by Republican members of the government for being completely disloyal to America?
By the way, who do these corporations imagine will purchase their junk, when all the jobs left in America are those of the service industry at minimum wage, or those relating to the extreme militarization of this nation (homeland security, surveillance, defense contracts, endless wars, weapons research and development, mercenaries, etc), that is to say when the fabric of American society will have been destroyed from within, in accordance with the bi-partisan globalization agenda?
For those who do not know yet, the globalization agenda is simple: to create new opportunities for the filthy rich as have not been seen since the dark ages of colonialism and imperialism, by significantly lowering the standards of living of North America and Western Europe, and slightly improving those of the third world, so that the earth is populated by a generally ignorant, apoverished, fearful, addicted and uncultured populace of mostly minimum wage earners-consumers of junk and grotesque entertainment, demoralized by a state of constant wars and easely intimidated by "national security States", by governments that have claimed total control in the name of security...Sounds like hell? Welcome to the near future, it is being manufactured (social engineering on a world scale) at this very moment.
As Native Americans said in the past, "What they have done to us, they will eventually do to you".

Darryl, you are delightful in your consistency. I have NEVER advocated free health care but then the subtleties of the facts have always escaped you. Everyone needs to pay to their abilities. The only thing America is number one in when it comes to health care is the amount we pay for it. We are 40th when it comes to infant mortality (sorry, the number does not include your favorite fixation - abortion) and yes Darryl, I know, you only care about an infant till its born, then the kid is on its own. Open all the free Walmarts you want to Darryl, I don't shop there as after weighing the "i can save a couple pennies vs putting my fellow americans out of work" well little ol' commie Donna opted for paying more to keep my neighbors employed. And your fixation on lawsuits - do you get sued frequently Darryl? I do not know you and wouldn't recognize you from Adam on the street but I hear your a little long in the tooth. Are you making use of Medicare yet? I love it when I run into people who say 'keep the government out of health care - I like my medicare the way it is, the government will only screw it up' D'Oh!
And Darryl, if you send me your address I will send you a dictionary. Are you advocating "free bred" - as in bred in the animal husbandry sense or are you advocating feeding the poor with bread, as Jesus did. It is hard to blog and use the spell check feature on your computer so I keep a tactile spell check next to mine. Hey, you can get one next time you go to Walmart and support those commies in China. :wink:

to say he wants his cold war rhetoric back. Man are you out of touch.

"Its sad when someone gets sick," this guy died because some HMO wouldn't treat him you hate monger.

You can call people all the names you like but they'd be hard pressed to call you Christian with any conviction. What are you anyway, the anti-christ?

Hmmmmmmmmmm. Let me see....Donna is not for national health care but she says she is. Then she says she's for "ability to pay".... not free health care. Hmmmmmmm let me seeeee...she must be for the lazy, school drop outs, spendthrifts, gamblers, drug addicts, and grossly obese....they don't have ability to pay so they get government handouts...What on earth is she teaching her kids!!!!??? Child protective services? Hello? Hello? DW

Things are heating up in John's cold war against the taxpayers. His bleeding heart is crying for someone who didn't have money to pay. He doesn't realize the man who died didn't have money to pay because he was taxed to death. Yes high taxes kill. John doesn't care about the workers. He doesnt care about the tax-payers. He thinks money grows on government trees. He wants not only national health but a national banking systym where the lazy people and hypochondriacs can get money when they're too sick to work. What a commie!!!

Taxes don't kill, however I suppose you could make the argument that our tax dollars are killing in Iraq. And don't forget your tax dollars are paying for health care there too. Wake up.

did the Christ you believe in ask the sick if they had the ability to pay him before he cured them? Didn't this Christ associate with the poor rather than the rich, with so called "sinners" and other "wretches" and "failures" rather than with the self-righteous, judgemental and hypocritical members of the temple, with whom you would have felt a real kinship?...For you to call those who have compassion for the poor "commies" would be comparable to calling you a fascist, which you might be after all...Would you have sided with Hitler in Germany and become a member of the Gestapo?...After all, like you, Hitler called himself a Christian, fiercely opposed communism, and thought work was salvation (as written on the entrance of concentration camps)...If you had the power, which you obviously wish you had, where would you send all these people you so intensely hate and despise, all these "evil, scum bag liberals" and other "degenerates", to a concentration camp or to hell, or both?...
By the way, was not your Christ the ultimate "bleeding heart", having bled for all of humanity in the name of his and the Creator's compassion and love for humankind, according to your own beliefs which you obviously fail to understand?

What Christ does Raphael follow? There is more than one. There's the Christ in the Bible and the one in the paintings. The one in the paintings is a long haired hippie who thinks work is slavery. This is the one Raphel follows. He makes up his own teachings. Conservative Christians follow the one in the Bible. He's a worker and all of his followers work; six days a week. His followers follow His teachings. When they hear the name Christ, they always say, Christ Who? DW

ok, an inquiring mind, Darryl you never answered when I asked if you were a Medicare recepient. Its that pesky ol' hypocracy thing that has me wondering about the answer. Hugs & Kisses, your fan, Donna

Sheeseh! Donna not only wants to gather databases for the in home health care crowd. She wants all writers to post personal info. No Donna this isn't a dating web site. Stick to the political ideas. You have a bad habit of criticizing individuals instead of their bad ideas. Big government and high taxes are bad ideas. You like both so defend your bad ideas. Personal attacks go no where. DW

You made my day - your non-answer answered my question loud and clear. I was only interested in your hypocracy. Perhaps your Christ will put that into his database. "Personal attacks go no where" bwahahahahahahaha. You made my day Darryl "I got mine,to hell with you" Watkins. Here is a FACT related to the original article by Terre, while caring for Dad he had Medicare, Medicare supplement thru BC/BS and access to the wonderful Veterans clinic in Ukiah. Medicare and VA - Never a problem. BlueCross/BlueShield -always some problem. What scares you Darryl is sometimes government works but it rarely ever works when the people running it don't believe it should work (see current Bush administration and accompanying toadies).