Comments for DEA conducts Upper Lake raids, make arrests at http://lakeconews.com , comment 1 to 51 out of 20 comments http://lakeconews.com Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:00:55 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14336 This is not about anybody disagreeing that someone can or can't grow (as a caregiver) 154 or so plants. You break the rules when you don't stick to certain guidelines like: HS 11362.765 2) A designated primary caregiver who transports,processes, administers, delivers, or gives away marijuana for medical purposes,in amounts not exceeding those established in subdivision (a) of Section 11362.77 which states- A qualified patient or primary caregiver may possess no more than eight ounces of dried marijuana per qualified patient. In addition, a qualified patient or primary caregiver may also maintain no more than six mature or 12 immature marijuana plants per qualified patient. Seems the only disputable issues here are- did the defendants have qualified individuals they were growing for and/or did they make a deal that does not qualify as an allowed transaction. Nothing else is an issue legally in this case to me. - Sandy Shores Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:02:00 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14329 Yep, it's organic and it's gonna grow a lot of pot! ;) - Skip Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:49:46 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14328 :D Can't you smell what you are shoveling? - cale_page Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:33:38 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14321 First of all to those who say we should change the laws, that's exactly what we are trying to do at the Board of Supervisors meetings. Unfortunately, the invisible hand of the DEA continues to prevent us from making any changes for the better, as each proposal includes more ways to criminalize cannabis, rather than focusing on providing safe access as mandated by Prop 215. As far as having over 100 plants, that is ALLOWED since caretakers can grow for others. This is the BIG bone of contention with the Feds since they will go after any grow bigger than 100 plants. That is what Eddy Lepp was doing, growing for hundreds of other medical patients. Contrary to the lies the LEOs told in court. Eddy was RAILROADED! His trial was fixed from the start. This is what we can expect in the future if we don't force a change now. The elections are coming and ANYONE opposing the letter and spirit of Prop 215 and attempting to undermine our rights should be voted out of office. - Skip Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:55:36 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14313 Wish they would go after people that make and sell meth. That is what is ruining our Country. Never knew anybody back in the day that smoked a little weed and then went out and hurt people or were so angry, or that lost their teeth and their youth - Shadow Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:53:32 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14304 !!!!!!!!!!! What the heck is going to happen to Olivia's Organics!!! It is my favorite place to do my grocery shopping at! I am Appalled! :( I also like the cock on top of it. - Aj156 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:04:38 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14302 Nothing about growing 154 pot plants in your yard is covered under prop 215 if you get caught making a deal to sell some of it to someone that does not have a medical Marijuana card. And, there are guidelines on how & how much you can grow for someone else. If you break the rules - the bad guys(law) come knocking (most of the time). Why is this confusing for some? :D - Sandy Shores Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:56:01 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14301 that dispenses what a doctor has ordered that has an MD on premises. Sorry guest, but it is lawful under Prop 215 and recently upheld by the State Supreme Court. Pending legislation in the House of Representative to tell the DEA to respect States Rights. Can't wait to see the pubbies twist themselves into a pretzel over this one. 'Yes to states rights - but only the ones we agree with'. This'll be a hoot. - Donna Christopher Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:00:18 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14300 As long as it is against the law, the law should be enforced. If you don't like the law put your time and energy into changing it. Until then it doesn't make much sense to spin your heads around over something like this. - a guest Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:14:59 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14299 No matter how ya slice it with no disrespect to either pros or cons of the med marijuana thing the real issue at hand is over zealousness of government officials all be it federal or local. Our gov't that every one so much screams about just voting this person in or out, it doesn't make a damn!!! They are all just pawns and puppets. The bottom dollar is this... if you or I are not part of the "Just Us" system (i.e.Law enforcement of some sort) them we are in danger. Danger of false prosecutions, false arrests, and false officials. Any one who thought that they were going to see big changes with Obama is high on pot themselves and that goes to show ya it does have serious effects on the brain Lol! He is the biggest puppet of all the presidents we've ever had, EXSPECIALLY because he is black (or multiracial) how ever ya want to put it. He has not gotten our troops out of the war as promised in fact he put more in. He will not tell the DEA to cool it because all the money OUR Gov't makes on the drugs that THEY see to it infiltrate our country pay his salary and for the war (not the one on drugs either)so they tell him where to get off. The only way to end this is to do what the constitution says to do. If we dont like our elected officials then vote them out (which doesnt work) or assasinate them. That's in the constitution folks written in there by Franklin I believe. Since we can't do that the only other way to rid the gov't of their tyrany is do like other countries have done make the govt spend money on treating the druggies like Amsterdam does. They have no crime or drug problems because they dont make drugs a crime or a problem. The problem is the one way street syndrome, "Do as we say not as we do". Watch the Matrix it's Sci Fi but it's pretty damn close to what's crackin in the good ol U.S - amines2anend Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:51:54 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14298 Another good reason not to have 'em.8) - cale_page Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:59:59 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14297 have MD's on site and do diagnoses? That was what I posted about - going to the DOCTOR's office with a minor child. Sandy it is because of the horrific violence that follows the cartels that Mexico is trying a different approach, they just decided this in the last week. Will it work - time will tell. Only thing I am certain of right now is that what we are doing does not work. I'm sure you and Cale don't need me to repeat the definition of insanity. - Donna Christopher Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:45:07 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14295 so the laws I'm most concerned with are the ones I can have some sort of vote on and directly impact my community. Although I do realise the laws outside my community and state have an impact on all of us. There have been some pretty horrendous drug crimes going on in Mexico for a while now. I do know that whatever they're doing/not doing down there is not the direction I want my community/state heading in. - Sandy Shores Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:18:16 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14294 You are assuming that these clubs are following the rules. Thats as bad as assuming the gub'ment has our best interests at heart. There is neutral ground here. I never said I don't know the potential marijuana has as a medicinal supplement. I know people whose chemo could have gone much worse without it. I also know that they still use it even though they are done. Some would call that addiction. I also know people who use recreationally. I do not look down on them as I think we all have our vices. I have even said it should be legal for them to use. The fact is, We already made all these mistakes with alcohol and tobacco. The laws are there. All we have to do is get everybody together on this. But, as long as advocates continue to lie and cheat their way through this I will continue to oppose knowing full well that eventually it will be legal. We actually agree more than you think but I refuse take this lightly with what history has proven. Even if its my history, or as Skip says "my kind" whatever that means. - cale_page Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:11:05 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14293 distributing cannabis to minors? I don't know how that all works but my children got no treatment from a doctor without my permission until they turned 18. May there be cases where someone under 18 could use cannabis - well as far as I've read cancer doesn't check I.D.'s. Now if you know of parents that sign off on their kids getting pot on some bogus reason I'll have to take your word on it. I personally haven't seen it and would certainly questions the parenting abilities in that hypothetical family. And it's pretty easy to find out what Mexico has decided to do with small amounts for personal use. They've been smart enough to realize you can't lock everybody up. We're getting there in CA now with the early release of many prisoners that probably could have been better served by drug courts, treatment and supervision in lieu of lock-up. Instead they've spent the last period of time getting a higher education on how to commit crimes at a very high price per person per year. Our current policy has failed. I no longer care to abide the failure or to fund it. - Donna Christopher Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:49:03 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14290 The argument to legalize/support use marijuana because it does not have overdose deaths is asinine. Should we outlaw food since far too many die every day from food related issues? I was in a beauty parlor a couple months ago and listened to two young women talk about one of them being a"pothead" and "idiot" (as the other called her), and the "pothead's" argument was "it's harmless, it doesn't really do anything. I mean I can drive fine and think normal and everything. People are so ignorant about pot." This discussion went back and forth until I couldn't resist any longer. I asked the "pothead": If it doesn't really do anything why not buy something legal like cigarettes then? Her brilliant response: "as if". I understand the benefits of medicinal marijuana - I lost a daughter to brain cancer after a ten year battle. But to say it's harmless or being used the way the law intended is also asinine and i support the law enforcement agencies in their efforts to make this place safer from crime related to this and other drugs. ~ best to all - Sandy Shores Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:26:39 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14289 obviously written by an advocate. I am mostly afraid of the one with a zero knowing how untrue that is. - cale_page Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:03:21 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14286 If you were really concerned about children and drugs you'd be watching what is being given LEGALLY to children in schools to modify their behavior. That is the gateway where kids learn that drugs can alter their minds and many end up taking whatever new prescriptions the drug companies are pushing on them this year. That is the start of their REAL addictions. Cale please note these USA stats: deaths annually from Tobacco : 435,000 deaths annually from Alcohol : 85,000 deaths annually from Prescription drugs: 32,000 deaths annually from marijuana: 0 source: http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30 Now which of these are you MOST AFRAID OF? - Skip Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:18:45 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14285 We are trying to get cannabis treated legally like alcohol or tobacco. That is what the dispensaries do. Nobody says kids should be allowed to use it. This is the kind of STUPID propaganda your kind continues to spew that would make us LAUGH at you if it was so sad that you're so misinformed. - Skip Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:51:55 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/9999/919/#comment-14283 Except when it comes to this issue. Mexico has a better drug policy than we do? So many things wrong with that statement that its hard to even begin to rebut. Maybe we should follow their leed. Lets send all of our drug dealers to Canada. You are correct that I am letting my kid down, that is just being who I am. She doesn't lack in the education department however. Despite all efforts by our district and the State of California, My wife and I have done our best to give her as good an education as possible. The dumbing down of America is exactly my point! Are you claiming that weed makes you smart? Do you really not know the disasterous affects that marijuana has on a childs learning capabilities. Actual defects in a childs brain caused by pot use. People are giving kids this drug and telling them it is harmless. And as long as that is happening I will support every last dollar that they spend on fighting it! When you get these people to start being responsible with their drug. Stop giving it to kids. Stop lying about its dangers. Stop laughing at me because they make more in a month than I do in three years with nowhere near the effort. When you can tell me that they are ready to have the same regulations as tobacco and alcohol and be willing to support their own enforcement. When these things happen I will be on board for legalization. Until then I will concider all growers as guilty of a crime and I don't think I am alone with those feelings. - cale_page Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:55:10 +0100