Comments for Curry: Are wildfires California's Katrina? at http://lakeconews.com , comment 1 to 13 out of 13 comments http://lakeconews.com Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:44:56 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4847/925/#comment-6013 The current imperialistic ambitions (The New American Century) of the US go hand in hand with the internal collapse of America...the desire to build military bases wherever oil can be found, and allowing for unprecedented military spending, bankrupting the nation in endless conflicts in the process, has for direct consequence the neglect of all that truly matters: education, health care, decent jobs, energy independence, infrastucture. It is very likely that environmental crisis will become more frequent and intense, and costly to governments and nations...perhaps the earth itself will force humanity to stop quarreling and to cooperate as no one will be able to afford the cost of environmental disasters and to wage wars at the same time. Perhaps nature itself will force us to become sane at last, by hurting us globally in the only place that seems to matter to our species: the pocket book, since we as a general rule are not intelligent enough to voluntarily cooperate and live peacefully in a state of harmony and balance with each other and with all life. Fires, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, the melting of the polar caps, droughts and severe storms, etc etc, could be the earth\'s way of collecting the rent, of restoring balance, of humbling us and putting us back in our place: not above the creation as we arrogantly think we deserve to be, but a mere part of it. By bankrupting nations, natural disasters will force us to change course or perish...there will be no more time for futile debates as to why, how or when, or who did it. - Raphael Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:51:57 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4847/925/#comment-6027 I do confess the use of Becky Currys post to poke the eyes of local bureaucrats but you would have to reach to see were I said we would have to check the Constitution for controled burns. Did think it was humorous. - James Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:56:25 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4847/925/#comment-6009 So... To sum up the 3 discussions above, I think we need to check the constitution, and see what it says about controlled burns and the militarization of space. - jmadison Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:26:22 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4847/925/#comment-5999 Dogman your right on.As a youngster i can remember the hills burning.Year after year small control burns.Nothing big,no massive ammounts of fuel build-up.Probably the most important thing upper management cared about the forest,instead of a fat paycheck and a do nothing attitude.Deer populations were fat and over the top.Mo Curry told some great fire stories. - DDean Wed, 09 Jul 2008 08:22:56 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4847/925/#comment-5995 I am aware most think that I am redundant and I\'m truly sorry for that. It has been my cause to gather your ears as a aggregate to form change with a local system a government that starts off with a lie. \"The oath to protect the Constitution\" What should be done is they will say words to the fact that they will follow all rules,laws or regulations that may govern your duties. For six years I have received Lake Countys rules, regulations,procedures and laws but not my rights that should bring justice. The problem with most is we talk around the issue not about the issue. Good life to all. - James Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:59:19 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4847/925/#comment-5992 partly my theory...I do not know for certain that oil prices have been allowed to sky rocket to push for nuclear power. But that\'s not the main point...nuclear power had to be imposed on the American public, one way or another, to allow for more research and development in this field and the eventual deployment of space weapons. It is true that government forces unpopular agendas on the public by allowing crises to occur, then offering their own "solutions" to implement these unpopular agendas (see 9/11 and the war in Iraq, and many other examples). But you can ignore this obvious strategy if you feel uncomfortable with these ideas. The main point here is the militarization of space. You can get all the information you need on the Pentagon website. It is not a secret, but a long term goal of the US. This illegal (according to international laws and treaties) goal of having TOTAL and UNILATERAL military control of space, consequently of the entire world, through the deployment of OFFENSIVE (not defensive as we are told) weapons is a completely bi-partisan agenda. Who is in control? The Pentagon, and all dominant US economic interests that have everything to gain by the assertion of US hegemony over the world and its diminishing resources. You could say it is the military-industrial complex, with the added pressure of diminishing resources and of the growth of other competing nations, such as China. This is not about a shadowy cabal of some private society members bent on controlling the world...no "illuminati" or "skull and bones" theories here. This is about an IN YOUR FACE strategy for the US to dominate the world...not too difficult to understand, if the public could only think beyond what will happen next week or next fall. But then perhaps the American public thinks it is a great idea for the US to dominate the world...if not now, it will by the time our government and its think tanks are done manufacturing consent through new fears and other strategies, that will present the militarization of space as an UNAVOIDABLE strategy meant to DEFEND America...sounds familiar?...It is so OBVIOUS it is pitiful people do not see it...but then again they probably do not care, and will accept the grotesque, obscene and truly evil reality of nuclear weapons encircling the entire planet, and of one nation attempting to impose its will on all others, if government uses the right arguments and sales them this agenda using the proper propaganda tools. - Raphael Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:14:51 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4847/925/#comment-5993 Many years ago, CDF, Fish & Game, BLM, US Forestery, and land owners did control burns in the fall & winter. It help make fire breaks. It was a practice that went on for years. If you ask some of the old ranchers and old Fire guys , they will tell you control burning is a good thing. Maybe a few control burns/fire breaks will help. - Dogman Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:01:58 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4847/925/#comment-5991 Its a mind set that progression that a child would take if not held in check. We have allowed bureaucrats of all strips to insure that the government works for their benefit. I can\'t sue the bureaucrat, I have to sue you the citizen if I am to get my rights. I have no rights because its a personnel matter. Were is the legal controling authority to insure those rights? What we have is dishonest people corrupting our government and we don\'t care. What do I know I\'m only a old man that thinks the oath the shysters take should mean \"to protect the Constitution\" not their interest. - James Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:04:30 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4847/925/#comment-5990 So Raphael, explain your theory a little more. Who is in on it? Are Barak Obama and John McCain being groomed for their future role in pushing the \"militarization of space\" and for America controlling the world? Or is it over their heads and out of their control? I agree that this country has gone downhill these past 8 years. But I don\'t want someone saying I can\'t connect the dots (think for myself) by not coming to the conclusion that oil prices are up simply because our government and corporations want the rise of nuclear power so that we can put weapons in space. I won\'t say it is a \"conspiracy theory\", mostly because I don\'t want to hurt your feelings, but there has to be more effective ways to get the Bush/ McCain/pro War crowd out of power. - jmadison Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:20:22 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4847/925/#comment-5986 the illegal militarization of space by the US is a bi-partisan strategy, which is why both Democrats and Republicans (who both represent corporate and banking interests better known as "national interests") are pushing for the development of nuclear energy to seemingly become energy independent...This strategy was predicted 17 years ago by a prominent activist against weapons in space. It is my opinion that the rise in the cost of oil has been artificially created to facilitate this transition to nuclear energy, without which the eventual deployment of weapons in space could not happen, which would mean that the US would have to forsake its imperial fantasy of controlling the entire world (how sad would that be?) Remember how government works: the American public has in the past repetitively expressed its opposition to nuclear energy. How do you force something the public does not want? Create or allow a crisis to occur that is even worse (the high price of oil) then offer the controversial solution as the only way out. That\'s one way to manufacture consent. As usual it will take one hundred years for people to catch up, as we are trained not to think. To think is to connect the dots...in the case of the government it is to connect the dots between all that the government is doing and all of its long term strategies, that are out there in the public domain for public examination. Unfortunately to connect the dots (to think) and see a pattern emerging between actions (facts) and long term strategies (facts) is called believing in conspiracy theories. So the public is taught never to connect the dots, never to think, by being given fragmented information, bit by bit, every bit of information disconnected from every other, and presented as standing on its own under some incomplete or partially true (and partially false) agenda, such as energy independence in the case of the nuclear industry. - Raphael Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:49:42 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4847/925/#comment-5962 have nothing against big government (and the largest increase in bureaucracy ever) when it comes to the police State: cameras everywhere, the (rejected) total awareness program, homeland security, the patriot act, phone and email monitoring, etc etc...The ideal neo con society, and world, is one of total control of the populace through the eventual merging (or extremely close cooperation) of the military, corporate interests and corporate mercenaries, intelligence gathering agencies and police. It is also a return to the conditions existing during the industrial revolution, a systematic deconstruction of every right that had been hard won for the working class and the middle class in the past one hundred years, as well as the invalidation of as many environmental laws as possible. The revolutionary strategy of these extremely radical neo cons was to flush the government down the drain, and inflate only the military and surveillance to maintain order while society falls apart. Next will be the development and deployment of weapons in space (against international treaties signed by 180 nations) to control the entire world. These weapons will be presented as being defensive, but will in reality be weapons of aggression to keep the world in line according to not only corporate interests, but because of basic resources such as potable water becoming ever more scarce. The budgeted development of nuclear power is part of this strategy, as theses weapons will be based on the further development of nuclear energy, and the government needs to pour untold amounts of money in the nuclear industry. Welcome to hell on earth, American style. - Raphael Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:17:09 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4847/925/#comment-5966 Just the normal progression took by others before. The weight of it all will cosume us. History and all the test done in the 1950 have shown how we will end up. What a time there will be.There have been those for to long that tell the truth and you don\'t hear anymore. - James Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:16:50 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4847/925/#comment-5958 put. I get the intent of Prop 13 when it comes to residential properties but it doesn\'t make as much sense when it comes to commerical properties, those properties can at least pass that on to customers/consumers. The term "conservative" seems oxymoronic lately, only personal wealth gets conserved, our resources and indeed, the very lives of volunteers are readily sacrificed. You cannot increase this nations debt, much held by nations who do not have our best interest at heart and have national security. And a government that cannot provide basic safety to its residents should tread lightly when it wants to arrest them for protecting their own property. And someone, somewhere, needs to find a bathtub deep enough to "drown" idiots such as that wonderful neocon Grover Norquist - or try him for treason. What he preaches is not good for America, neither is what this presidential administration practices. Heckuva Job NeoCons! - Donna Christopher Mon, 07 Jul 2008 07:25:06 +0100