Comments for Judge: Dinius to stand trial for fatal 2006 boating crash at http://lakeconews.com , comment 1 to 29 out of 20 comments http://lakeconews.com Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:37:27 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-9864 Bismark Dinius was over the legal limit to operate a motorized vehicle. That is not disputed. Perdock broke the following Nav Laws in the course of killing Lynn Thornton: Rule 5 Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look-out Rule 6 Every vessel shall at all times proceed at a safe speed Rule 7 Every vessel shall use all available means appropriate to the prevailing circumstances and conditions to determine if risk of collision exists. Rule 8 A vessel must taken positive action to avoid a collision Rule 13 any vessel overtaking any other shall keep out of the way of the vessel being overtaken. Rule 18 A power-driven vessel underway shall keep out of the way of a sailing vessel. 655 H&N No person shall use any vessel in a reckless or negligent manner so as to endanger the life, limb or property of any person. So, there\'s more than just speed. There\'s a laundry list of crimes perpetrated by Perdock leading up to and causing the death of Lynn Thornton. Of these, excessive speed is the most crucial. - Aloha27 Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:43:17 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5375 Not sure why the IP shows up for some and not for others. But so far all the comments under \"bleedsailing\" have been written by me, so I haven\'t hijacked or been hijacked yet. But still, Perdock is 100% percent responsible for this tragedy. He\'s getting away with manslaughter and laughing in our faces. Besides being a cop, why does Perdock get off scott free? It all stinks. - bleedsailing Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:33:28 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5355 While this is my first post I have been following this case with great interest. Dinius is getting screwed, and Perdock is getting a "Get out of Jail Free" card. What part of Rule 6 "Safe Speed" don\'t Russel Perdock\'s defenders understand. Bismarck Dinius is being made to pay for Perdock\'s fatal mistake. Excess speed is the "proximate cause" of Lynn Thornton\'s death - Michael Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:58:15 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5324 Our administrator is working on the posting problem. His e-mail is lcnewsadmin@lakeconews.com and he should be notified the minute an issue is noticed. In the mean time, we ask everyone that if they go to post and someone else\'s name come up, that they simply log in using their own moniker. That resolves it. If someone posts under another name, and the real user asks us to remove that post, we will. - elarson Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:55:54 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5354 before, only an IP shows, which means someone else could use the nick. I think they have fixed this, maybe. You make your statement like it\'s a bad thing or something. Dinius will soon wear bracelets. No doubt about it. - Stewart Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:28:09 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5353 This is me. I registered as \"bleedsailing.\" Do tell, who am I really? In response, I am not lumping all law enforcement officers and government officials in with Perdock and his gang. I have a lot of respect for the men and women that put their lives on the line to keep the rest of us safe, but when people like Perdock tarnish that good image with this reckless behavior, deception, fraud and lies, my blood starts to boil. And if that wasn\'t enough, what gives Perdock the right to sue Dinius in civil court? He wants to see Dinius behind bars for years, and on top of that he wants Dinius\' livelihood. He wants to utterly ruin Dinius. I\'m asking you this: Why doesn\'t Perdock have to bear any responsibility at all? Take the alcohol out of the picture completely. Put Dinius at the helm of the sailboat stone cold sober and tell me how the outcome would have been different. Educate us all. - bleedsailing Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:02:34 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5352 Really? It\'s SOP to lose the hour between the blood draw and delivery to the substation? If this is part of a strict process Lord help us when they are feeling lax. Wish I had more faith but back in the day while still working in the legal profession, one crime scene had a box from the DOJ out of Eureka, seal broken and items removed that matched the inventory list of the box and also items found on the return on warrant. I know everyone makes mistakes but you have to admit, that was a doozy to leave that behind. Don\'t care what uniform it\'s in, it is still a human (subject to all things humans do). And anyone carrying a gun under the guise of authority to shoot people better be scrutinized \"...hour by hour, incident by incident, breath by breath\".... - Donna Christopher Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:36:55 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5348 It\'s always been my experience that in questionable issues with a law enforcement officer involved, the officer goes through a stricter process than average Joe citizen. These good ole boy standards aren\'t what you think. - gabby Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:37:40 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5347 that as much scrutiny was placed on your occupation hour by hour, incident by incident, breath by breath, and let everyone critique your actions without knowing all the facts. Call you names and wish the worse upon you for just doing your dang job! - gabby Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:17:10 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5346 The site administrator is working on this and trying to come up with an immediate solution. His e-mail address is lcnewsadmin@lakeconews.com. - elarson Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:16:48 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5340 So you think judge Martin is a great judge. Maybe you can elaborate on what that means to you. To have as many ties and interconnected relationships to the players in this case shows me he should have recused himself. If we are to have faith in the system all key players should be beyond reproach in terms of their possible bias\'. Why are forced to have faith in this scenerio? Another judge or a change of venue would play much better in the court of public opinion. It is perfectly clear you are charging that Martin has no hidden agenda. By that statement you are showing your bias towards him. Wouldn\'t it be nice to have an outside judge preside over the case so we didn\'t have to even have this discussion? As far as the jury deciding the case, that is true in the end. However to believe the judge has no power to influence a trial is incorrect. The judge decides what may be introduced, what may be brought out in court to the jury. The judge decides when a line of questioning goes too far. The list goes on and on. If a judge had no impact on a case it would never matter to a DA or Defense Attorney what Judge presides over their cases. We know this is not true. - LakeNative Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:23:13 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5336 I think that \"Old Coot\" should be charged for posting comments when he said he wasn\'t going to. I think \'LakeNative\' should be charged with charging people of having a hidden agenda when they don\'t. I also think that a jury will decide the verdict, not Judge Martin, who happens to be a great judge. - jmadison Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:12:38 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5328 The problem with this forum is there is too many people with hidden agendas and a willingnous to believe anything written. If you dig a little bit to get the FACTS you would see: Judge Martin\'s ex wife and mother to his son, works for the DA\'s office, His Son is a Patrol deputy with the Lake County Sheriff\'s Dept. that was under the direct supervision of Chief Deputy Perdock. Also if my memory serves me well the Judge himself was at one time a deputy DA. Now do you really think there is NO bias?? - LakeNative Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:12:19 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5327 by using someone else\'s nick. Hint: your IP gives you away. Now we know who you really are. You and your fellow law enforcement, authority and govt haters will get yours sooner or later. Semper Fi - Stewart Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:04:57 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5323 ...some of us know the law as well. The LAW states that at night all boats must drive at a speed that allows the driver to react in time to avoid an obstruction or another boat, whether lit or unlit. Clearly Perdock was not doing this. He broke the law and is getting away with it because he is a cop. The question that the jury needs to answer is whether or not alcohol was a factor in Ms. Thornton\'s death. The sailors on that boat had been sailing all day. It was not like they were getting sloshed in a bar and then decided to go sailing. They would have been in the same spot. So how would Dinius being stone-cold sober have affected the outcome? Alcohol is not the enemy here. Corrupt \"good ol\' boy\" networks and \"Wild West\" law enforcement are the real culprits. The bottom line is that Perdock\'s reckless driving caused the accident, not Dinius being buzzed on a drifting boat. - bleedsailing Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:16:11 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5319 Lisa, The question everyone is asking is: Do you think that if the police officer was the one in the sailboat and that Joe Citizen ran him over, under the same circumstances, WOULD the police officer be charged with murder? Think about it, before responding. - jmadison Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:26:34 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5317 LisaCLK...you are correct, this IS an emotional issue but there are LAWS about safe boating speeds. Also, in all fairness and in the name of the LAW, shouldn\'t everyone involved in this incident have had a Blood Alcohol Test done at the same time! on the same day!? - catlady Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:16:46 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5316 What a completely farcical argument. I\'ve read your past comments, and this seems to be the best argument you can come up with for convicting this man. Guess what, buddy? If Deputy Speed-for-Thrills and his posse had stayed dockside that night, none of this would have happened! Who do you work for? The DA? The Lake County SD? It must be great knowing you can\'t be held liable for anything you do. You\'ve got to love the message Perdock and his band of clowns are sending to the public. I\'ve got nothing to do tonight, so maybe I\'ll wait till after dark and go ripping around in my speedboat. I can run over anybody I want and not be held responsible! You\'ve got a twisted sense of justice and accountability if this is the outcome you\'re hoping for. You offend me. - bleedsailing Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:20:01 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5314 Dinius gets off, will Hopkins file charges against Perdock? Nope, can\'t do that, it would make Hopkins look bad, and besides, we don\'t punish cops around here when they steal from old folks or beat a homeless man to death and don\'t bother to try doing CPR on him, or if they spend their shift at their girlfriend\'s house or if they rob conveinance stores or if they beat the crap out of suspects or if they do drugs or if they tell good looking women they can \"fix\" tickets in their bedrooms or if they let a guy die of a heart attack because they thought they could send him to state prison before he croaked so they wouldn\'t have to pay the dr. bill, or... - smurf Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:48:50 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/4520/919/#comment-5313 This is about the law for MR. Dinius.the injustice was done when Officer Perdock bares no responsibility as the system by their actions have said so. May I suggest you move on, get over it, get a life and lets not be delusional and above all no town crying. Or maybe a recall I\'ll help pay for it. Semper FI - James Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:44:25 +0100