Comments for Hearing explores Lake County IHSS proposal at http://lakeconews.com , comment 1 to 9 out of 9 comments http://lakeconews.com Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:06:30 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/2103/919/#comment-1572 So what we have is a conspiracy, in the back alleys, Our local Yahoos were aware and had over a week so plains could have been made. What we have her is the old dog an pony show by a government to control the least paid and keep the power in there hands. I can assure you this thay will lie, thay will cheat and brake the law. And because we donot keep a eye on them. I have said it before and repeat it again.\" Vigilance is always the first casualty with loss of liberty. ? Our local government is run by daspots and serve themselves for themselves. God help us - James Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:27:07 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/2103/919/#comment-1569 on it Purplegirl, \"more about money than care\" would certainly answer all the questions. I think the reason at least one of our Supes couldn\'t make it is cause Farrington is still out (sell the bike or what is left of it dude, you don\'t bounce like ya did at 17) so there would have only been 3 supes. But I really do question who ever scheduled a state meeting that requests a Supe to be there when they already know (state law) that they must meet on Tuesdays (least the first 4 in any month). Just another government side show to keep from actually doing something. I\'m shocked :wink: - Donna Christopher Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:05:16 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/2103/919/#comment-1539 \"On the third panel, Deborah Doctor, policy advocate for Protection and Advocacy Inc., said the two-tier proposal offers no evidence of increased safety for clients, it diminishes statutory rights and punishes consumers for their choices. She suggested it came down to the county attempting to save money.\" I couldn\'t have said it better myself. This is NOT about care it is about money. If it were about care, safety, security, it wouldn\'t just be In Home Support Services they would be concentrating on with this two tiered system. Yesterday, I commented about why this two tier system is so dangerous. But, after thinking about it, I am not really sure the BOS really thinks they can get away with a two tiered system in the first place and that it may be nothing more than a diversion to keep from having to give homecare providers what they deserve which is a decent wage and healthcare (which is what they get most everywhere else in California). I think they know they are on the wrong track with this one. I mean, think about it, if they were so passionate and wholehearted about this proposal simply for the sole purpose of security and safety of the \"vulnerable\"... a board member\'s words not mine.... couldn\'t at least ONE Of the supervisors have shown up for the hearing? No, I am pretty sure that this is more about money than care. - purplegirl Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:07:09 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/2103/919/#comment-1529 It’s important that we clear something up: [b]CUHW is not apposed to background checks[/b] – in fact, we supported the new legislation that ensures consumers have access to worker background checks if they so desire to have it when hiring their care provider. [b]We’ve always been dedicated to taking steps to ensure that the best quality care is being delivered to our seniors and people living with disabilities.[/b] We are also [b]dedicated to ensuring that consumer choice – the foundation of the IHSS program – is not taken away from IHSS recipients and decided by elected officials.[/b] [b]What we are opposed to is the creation of a two-tier pay scale - that has nothing to do with quality of work – and creates a second class citizen.[/b] What the County Board of Supervisors are attempting to do is to tarnish the image of workers who have so selflessly given of their time to care for those in need by casting them in a suspicious light as a group of workers who can not be trusted. Nothing could be further from the truth! Finally, Mr. Freeman’s comments referencing the Civil Rights movement and Jim Crow were not meant to be taken literally, but rather a reference to the harm that can be done when a second class of citizens is created and the years of work required to undo that damage. On behalf of all Lake County homecare workers, thank you for taking such interest in this important issue. - SMann Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:15:24 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/2103/919/#comment-1521 My opion on this matter would be solely my awareness of the four males that call them selfs supervisors. It is hard for me to believe this board would have the best interest of those that IHSS is intended to help. If there is a union then this county should negotiate, not go in a bask door to get the upper hand. This is about money, control and power if not hire them as government enployees with the same benefits as the rest. Now thats only view because I have known them not tobe honest males. - James Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:38:49 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/2103/919/#comment-1518 if they had.... cite your evidence please. because no one recieves a living wage, then no one should get one? wow talk about your circular logic. and if she doesnt work for me, i want my money back from that portion of my county property & sales tax that goes in to the county of Lake coffers, that enables it to issues a monthly check to the County Director of Social Services. - taxismom Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:03:56 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/2103/919/#comment-1517 If Taxismom had paid attention to the BOS meeting yesterday morning just after 9 a.m. the question about what the BOS was about would have been answered. This hearing certainly looked like someone in Sacramento was attempting to blind side Lake County. The Social Services Director acted as she was directed to act by her employers, the BOS. (No she does not work directly for each and every tax payer. The BOS have been elected to direct her actions.) Why are additional tests for additional pay a negative? Perhaps the first tier needs to be higher, but why not offer an incentive? The county has said it will pay for the tests, not the client, not the worker. A living wage? Just how many workers in Lake County have the luxury of a living wage....or even retirees who receive the equivalent of a living wage? I just love the comments by Mr. Freeman - just couldn\'t leave race out of the equation could he? If Taxismom did her research she would know that with the exception of a single supervisor, each and every BOS member has at some time punched a clock. Just shows the ignorance of the writer. The consumer may hire whomever they choose, nothing has changed that. If the consumer chooses to hire someone who has not been tested that is their privilege. Who is going to pay for these professional mediators? Do you think they are free? Do you believe those negotiating are not professionals? Which side? What do IHSS workers (or the union) have to hide? Seems to me the people not being upfront are not sitting on the BOS. - yellowwing Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:42:10 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/2103/919/#comment-1509 here http://www.calchannel.com/archive.php select October 16 budget subcommittee number 1,on health and human services. Listen carefully to the comments and questions from Assemblyman De LaTorre and our Assemblywoman. Why was a county employee, Ms. Hutchinson directed to not answer questions? What is this Board afraid of? Doesn\'t she know what\'s going on? Is she not capable of clarifying and speaking to this proposal by BOS? She works for me, not the BOS. The testosterone enabled members of the Lake County BOS, continue to display their arrogance, ignorance and provincialism on matters regarding working people. Have any of them ever actually punched a clock? Have any of them ever bargained a contract with an employer as a wage earner? The suggestion, during public comment, by the IHSS worker from Mendo County, that a team of professional mediators be sent in to teach the BOS how to negotiate a contract is excellent and I hope acted upon. The question is not to test or not to test, and not whether or not providers submit to a background check. The providers have agreed to do this. The question is why is this Board intent upon creating a class of county wage earners that are deemed \'second class\'? As Assemblyman De La Torre asked, does Ms. Hutchinson have to submit to a drug test in order to get a raise? - taxismom Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:50:42 +0100 http://lakeconews.com/content/view/2103/919/#comment-1507 well if anyone is interested in my opinion, working as an LVN x a million years... a two tier system is completely ridiculous. I could speculate forever as to why the County of Lake came up with this brilliant plan, effecting the consumer and providers, but I won\'t. What I will say may piss some (a lot) people off, but it won\'t be a first! Drug and alcohol testing, in my opinion, should be in place in this program ,just as it is for most of my jobs over the years, caring for others as a licensed vocational nurse. The counter argument to this is....then everyone should be tested who provides service to consumers and along comes big brother... Again my feeling on this subject are strong in that you are working with a very vunerable population, emotionally, physically and sometimes spiritually. In essence the perfect targets (victims) and yes for those that are already pissed I recognize that that is a stereotype!! Drug and Alcohol testing is routine within the hospitals and nursing in-home-care agencies. Why should In-Home-Support-Services be any different? The care givers are providing for and working with individuals that need their assistance for daily living. Summation: Forget the two tier, these people deserve one level with a $3.00/hr. raise and County paid drug and alcohol testing with finger prints, and a working county registry in place for consumers to call 24/7 - lenny Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:08:17 +0100